Episode 63 - Therapy in Prison (with Kenneth E. Hartman)

Kenneth E. Hartman is a prison reform activist who served 38 years of a life sentence in the California prison system. He discusses his advocacy work, what mental health care looks like in prison, and his personal experiences of therapy – both good and bad. He also shares his thoughts on how therapists can play a role in the necessary social change at the heart of effective prison reform. Plus, Carrie discusses if it is ever justified to warn clients about using insurance.